i was talking about benghazi. >> you do not use the word immigration. >> it came up a little bit. it came up in the following way. people wanted to know that the president cared about the issue. they wanted to understand not -- why it had not been achieved in his first term. this served almost the same function i view, that of a threshold issue. if they are ok on immigration, they will listen to the rest of it. if you're not, they will not listen to the rest of it. but not think it is fully the problem. it served a little bit in this anecdotal evidence derived from interviews. it was an issue. it was almost a euro can this issue. >> alphonso. what did you do on your thoughts and vacation? i know you organize an independent television ad campaign in nevada. explain to us what that means. how does that word? how does it work? what did the election but like stick to your personal experience and then we will broaden it out. >> the great thing is that it is independent. i'm not here to defend the romney campaign. we realized we needed to do something different. the latino vote would be